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The Brainy Business | Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy | Behavioral Economics


Apr 17, 2020

I am very excited to bring back Nikki Rausch, from Sales Maven and one of my very favorite people on earth. You have heard Nikki’s name on the show before, and even her voice a couple of times – she is the first repeat guest ever on the show…but last time she was here she was doing the interviewing when the brainy pricing course first launched. Now, I’m asking the questions and we are having more of a comfortable conversation about ways to make it easy for people to do business with you.

I’ve had the joy of knowing Nikki for over 5 years now (almost 10? I’ve lost count!). We were in the same networking group and always got along. When I started doing freelance work while still in a corporate space, Nikki was one of my early clients – she hired me to edit her second book! I’m actually mentioned in the acknowledgements for her book Buying Signals, (though my last name is different). That book is awesome by the way, as is her third book The Selling Staircase.

Nikki and I don’t study exactly the same thing, but her background in neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) has a lot of similarities to behavioral economics. It is understanding and speaking better to the brain’s natural tendencies…so it is no wonder we get along so well. 

We have an amazing conversation about making it easy for your potential clients to do business with you. Nikki shares tips that are aligned with the principles of NLP that can really make a difference when dealing with clients and potential clients. We talk about how to make it easy for your customer to take the next step, how to make the email about them, and scheduling with the client in mind.

Show Notes:

  • [04:43] Nikki is a sales coach, trainer and speaker; her company is Sales Maven. She is also an author and a podcaster with a background in sales and NLP.
  • [05:17] Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) is the study of communication and the way we process things in our brains. The programming part is about habits and patterns. Nikki has about 1,200 hours in training (compared to the 200 most others in the field have).
  • [08:31] Many of us inadvertently communicate in a way that makes it difficult for customers to buy. 
  • [09:18] The easier you make it for someone to take that next step, the more likely they are to follow through.
  • [11:02] Every time you put up a roadblock, you risk the chance of losing that potential client.
  • [12:47] The answer to “tell me when you're available” … is “never.”
  • [14:18] You can use the three times technique. Ask if the potential client would like to chat and then give them three ranges of times. A range could be anytime between 9:00 and 3:00 or 8:00 and 8:30. Then follow up with, “Please choose what's best for you. If you prefer something else…”
  • [17:24] Scheduling links are common, but it needs to be framed in a way that doesn't turn off your potential client. Make it easy for them. Don't use “I” statements. Make it for the readers benefit. “Please choose the time that's best for you.” Not “These are the times that work for me.”
  • [24:27] Make “you” statements and ask questions. “Would you be open to meeting to talk?”
  • [25:30] In a hurry? Don't send that email. It's worth it to slow down and think about how it will be received. 
  • [30:10] “What questions come to mind to you?” This phrase sounds better than “does that make sense?” (Melina’s personal mission is to remove this phrase from use.) “If” statements can be too much too. 
  • [33:31] “Do you have questions?” also isn't an effective phrase. Try “What  questions come to mind so far?” instead. 
  • [37:18] Let people know what you want instead of having a “go fish” mentality. Have a clear next step when you want someone to take action. Schedule a time to circle back. 
  • [45:10] You can find Nikki and her podcast on the Sales Maven. You can also download Closing the Sale for free.

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